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Delhiguy you are right and dont participate in any protest some of the members are making, have fun with your family, if you have any, and chill out. dont worry what others are doing
USCIS and gov make laws and break laws we dont have right to ask, but when we got hurt we should make them know how did they hurt us so that they will not do that to future immigrants, that's it.
I am doing things, which i could have done , I am sorry if my views collided with yours ,
USCIS and gov make laws and break laws we dont have right to ask, but when we got hurt we should make them know how did they hurt us so that they will not do that to future immigrants, that's it.
I am doing things, which i could have done , I am sorry if my views collided with yours ,
Those who think, their employer is OK - be extra extra cautious. Never, never believe employers. Bottom line is, employers will not care for u, if they know u r gonna benefit out of this, they will do everything they can to avoid this. Most desi employers indulge in sweet talks. Talks will be extremely sweet. Just like how they talk to u before u join the company.
GC filing is a carrot that employers thrive on. They will do anything to aqvoid this situation.
Remember, your problems are not over after filing 485 also. The so called prospective employers who always told u, "I will hire you, if you have a GC or EAD" will now give some other excuse. Basically they want to put u in a position where u have less chances of bargain, thats the whole deal.
Lotsa people go by self employment after filing for EAD (Dunno how - maybe some IV members can explain this) and still do contracting and safely see themselves through their GC.
So basically, we are on our own here. For those dealing with desi employers - I can tell u one thing. U can handle the situation with sweet talk and some diplomacy - desi employers have their own fears. But those dealing with American employers - be extra careful - HR personnel etc... who have sympathy for layed off workers etvc... will try to screw u big time on ur back. If they decide to screw u - they will do it big time and none of ur diplomacy will work there - believe me, I gone through this.
Be smart - stay on top of things, don't waste time and get things done in all possible ways. Get employer letter in whatever way u can. (If you have a letterhead - u know what I am saying ....)
GC filing is a carrot that employers thrive on. They will do anything to aqvoid this situation.
Remember, your problems are not over after filing 485 also. The so called prospective employers who always told u, "I will hire you, if you have a GC or EAD" will now give some other excuse. Basically they want to put u in a position where u have less chances of bargain, thats the whole deal.
Lotsa people go by self employment after filing for EAD (Dunno how - maybe some IV members can explain this) and still do contracting and safely see themselves through their GC.
So basically, we are on our own here. For those dealing with desi employers - I can tell u one thing. U can handle the situation with sweet talk and some diplomacy - desi employers have their own fears. But those dealing with American employers - be extra careful - HR personnel etc... who have sympathy for layed off workers etvc... will try to screw u big time on ur back. If they decide to screw u - they will do it big time and none of ur diplomacy will work there - believe me, I gone through this.
Be smart - stay on top of things, don't waste time and get things done in all possible ways. Get employer letter in whatever way u can. (If you have a letterhead - u know what I am saying ....)
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Well, following the discussion on BS and MS grads and some of the members cribbing why the MS(from US) students get special treatment, here are my 2 cents.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
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It's more of a motivation to get up and do something. How much was collected? I know many ppl contributed but the contribution was very less...so u shut up ur hole or whatever language u prefer to use at ur home. My point was to do rather than posting. If u didn't get that, sorry.
smuggymba,
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
smuggymba,
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
Here you go - These are the wordings !
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1. Employee had agreed to pay $ 10,000 if Employee resigns within first year of receiving the green card (hereinafter �Commitment Period�). After payment of the salary for the working days till the commitment period subject to all applicable payroll taxes and deductions, completes the transaction and Employee agrees that he has no other claims against the company.
$$$$$
Also there are more sensitive clauses like >>>>
8. EMPLOYEE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THIS AGREEMENT CREATES A PERMANENT BAR AGAINST THE FILING OF ANY LAWSUIT OR THE ASSERTION OF ANY LEGAL CLAIM WHATSOEVER AGAINST ANY RELEASEE WITH RESPECT TO ANY ACTS, OMISSIONS, OBLIGATIONS, BREACHES, OR DAMAGES ARISING OR OCCURRING PRIOR TO THE EXECUTION HEREOF, WHETHER KNOWN OR UNKNOWN BY EMPLOYEE.
BY SIGNING THIS AGREEMENT, EMPLOYEE STATES THAT HE:
a) HAS READ IT AND HAS HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO CONSIDER ITS TERMS;
b) UNDERSTANDS IT AND KNOWS THAT HE IS GIVING UP IMPORTANT RIGHTS;
c) AGREES WITH EVERYTHING IN IT;
d) HAS CONSULTED WITH AN ATTORNEY BEFORE SIGNING IT; AND
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e) HAS SIGNED IT KNOWINGLY AND VOLUNTARILY.
FOR A PERIOD OF SEVEN (7) DAYS AFTER THE EXECUTION OF THIS AGREEMENT BY EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEE MAY REVOKE THIS AGREEMENT; AND THIS AGREEMENT SHALL NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE OR ENFORCEABLE UNTIL THE REVOCATION PERIOD HAS EXPIRED.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the Parties have executed and entered into this Agreement.
I meant "whole sentence from the employment agreement". All depends on the wordings. If your agreement is linked to I-485 approval date then there is a way out. Every contract must have well defined terms. Since date for I-485 approval is not known, such contracts are difficult to stand in court of law. However, if it says "the employee must work for 2 years or 6-months after I-485 approval date (whichever is earlier) otherwise he/she will pay all GC related expenses" then the contract is more likely to be enforceable.
All depends on the wordings of the contract.
Please consult a good lawyer BEFORE signing any contract.
Not a legal advice.
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desi3933 at gmail.com
$$$$
1. Employee had agreed to pay $ 10,000 if Employee resigns within first year of receiving the green card (hereinafter �Commitment Period�). After payment of the salary for the working days till the commitment period subject to all applicable payroll taxes and deductions, completes the transaction and Employee agrees that he has no other claims against the company.
$$$$$
Also there are more sensitive clauses like >>>>
8. EMPLOYEE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THIS AGREEMENT CREATES A PERMANENT BAR AGAINST THE FILING OF ANY LAWSUIT OR THE ASSERTION OF ANY LEGAL CLAIM WHATSOEVER AGAINST ANY RELEASEE WITH RESPECT TO ANY ACTS, OMISSIONS, OBLIGATIONS, BREACHES, OR DAMAGES ARISING OR OCCURRING PRIOR TO THE EXECUTION HEREOF, WHETHER KNOWN OR UNKNOWN BY EMPLOYEE.
BY SIGNING THIS AGREEMENT, EMPLOYEE STATES THAT HE:
a) HAS READ IT AND HAS HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO CONSIDER ITS TERMS;
b) UNDERSTANDS IT AND KNOWS THAT HE IS GIVING UP IMPORTANT RIGHTS;
c) AGREES WITH EVERYTHING IN IT;
d) HAS CONSULTED WITH AN ATTORNEY BEFORE SIGNING IT; AND
3
e) HAS SIGNED IT KNOWINGLY AND VOLUNTARILY.
FOR A PERIOD OF SEVEN (7) DAYS AFTER THE EXECUTION OF THIS AGREEMENT BY EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEE MAY REVOKE THIS AGREEMENT; AND THIS AGREEMENT SHALL NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE OR ENFORCEABLE UNTIL THE REVOCATION PERIOD HAS EXPIRED.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the Parties have executed and entered into this Agreement.
I meant "whole sentence from the employment agreement". All depends on the wordings. If your agreement is linked to I-485 approval date then there is a way out. Every contract must have well defined terms. Since date for I-485 approval is not known, such contracts are difficult to stand in court of law. However, if it says "the employee must work for 2 years or 6-months after I-485 approval date (whichever is earlier) otherwise he/she will pay all GC related expenses" then the contract is more likely to be enforceable.
All depends on the wordings of the contract.
Please consult a good lawyer BEFORE signing any contract.
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
desi3933 at gmail.com
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Dear all,
I was wondering if any one on this forum has filed his/her AOS with NSC and their case will be transferred to TSC (due to I140 approved from TSC) and has got the filing receipts yet?
My application (based on lawyer's email) should have reached NSC on July 2nd, but haven't got the checks cashed yet or got the receipts yet...
I was wondering that my case will most likely be transferred to TSC from NSC. I am thinking lot of guys are in same situation as me, but have you guys received any receipt yet?
Thanks and good luck!
yes several people are in this situation (including me) but haven't seen any checks cashed for any such case.
I was wondering if any one on this forum has filed his/her AOS with NSC and their case will be transferred to TSC (due to I140 approved from TSC) and has got the filing receipts yet?
My application (based on lawyer's email) should have reached NSC on July 2nd, but haven't got the checks cashed yet or got the receipts yet...
I was wondering that my case will most likely be transferred to TSC from NSC. I am thinking lot of guys are in same situation as me, but have you guys received any receipt yet?
Thanks and good luck!
yes several people are in this situation (including me) but haven't seen any checks cashed for any such case.
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Very well said..
The thing is we are so much busy in our day to day activities and we forgot:
1. To Thank GOD for what he has given us.
2. To know ourselves that what exactly we want in life.
Try to enjoy all phases/moments of life..
You may want to focus on (and be thankful for) what you have out of the following:
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
This obviously is not a all-inclusive list. You may have your own things to add here. To me, having all these priceless gifts on the one hand and not having a GC on the other is clearly lopsided for you to be happy!
And after all, we are not "permanent" residents of anywhere, right? :) So, why attach more than necessary importance to a piece of paper during our prime time?
Cheers,
GG_007
The thing is we are so much busy in our day to day activities and we forgot:
1. To Thank GOD for what he has given us.
2. To know ourselves that what exactly we want in life.
Try to enjoy all phases/moments of life..
You may want to focus on (and be thankful for) what you have out of the following:
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
This obviously is not a all-inclusive list. You may have your own things to add here. To me, having all these priceless gifts on the one hand and not having a GC on the other is clearly lopsided for you to be happy!
And after all, we are not "permanent" residents of anywhere, right? :) So, why attach more than necessary importance to a piece of paper during our prime time?
Cheers,
GG_007
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Buddy, it looks like its only you and me remaining who has not received the FP notice. For me its been 30 days since opening SR and nothing. We are the unfortunate ones who have not only not received FP but our application are in TSC , where opening an SR is of no use.
We may want to try a different strategy to inquire about our FP rather than calling that number floating around which is of no use to us. All I got from calling that number was WAIT , Local ASC must be busy.
I am not sure InfoPass appointment will help, but hope its worth trying.
I am July Filer too I have not received evn a single receipt for anything. I called USCIS they said it is taking from 90 to 120 days so wait and call.
Buddy, it looks like its only you and me remaining who has not received the FP notice. For me its been 30 days since opening SR and nothing. We are the unfortunate ones who have not only not received FP but our application are in TSC , where opening an SR is of no use.
We may want to try a different strategy to inquire about our FP rather than calling that number floating around which is of no use to us. All I got from calling that number was WAIT , Local ASC must be busy.
I am not sure InfoPass appointment will help, but hope its worth trying.
I am July Filer too I have not received evn a single receipt for anything. I called USCIS they said it is taking from 90 to 120 days so wait and call.
The priority date should be always based on the particular labor filling or the filing of I140 (which ever applicable)
I am not against anyone getting GC. If everyome gets GC today, I am all for it. But no solution is in sight. But that does not mean someone elase will try to push EB2 back.
Therefore just wanted to let EB2 guys realize what will happen to them if no action is taken.
This is very simillar to labor substitution...
Thanks for your "sincere" concern.
There is no abuse in porting, don't worry about it.
Porting happens as prescribed by law, unlike Labor substitutions which was being sold for $$$. These days its not easy to get filed in EB2 - as the labor market is very bad. If someone gets through, then they really deserve it .
Don't get paranoid about porting. Porting is there for a reason and will stay. Doesnot matter whether you like it or not!
I am not against anyone getting GC. If everyome gets GC today, I am all for it. But no solution is in sight. But that does not mean someone elase will try to push EB2 back.
Therefore just wanted to let EB2 guys realize what will happen to them if no action is taken.
This is very simillar to labor substitution...
Thanks for your "sincere" concern.
There is no abuse in porting, don't worry about it.
Porting happens as prescribed by law, unlike Labor substitutions which was being sold for $$$. These days its not easy to get filed in EB2 - as the labor market is very bad. If someone gets through, then they really deserve it .
Don't get paranoid about porting. Porting is there for a reason and will stay. Doesnot matter whether you like it or not!
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